"Amant" doesn’t change the meaning of "koibito" because "amant" is a valid meaning of "koibito"

The French translation is ascribing one of the two valid meanings to the word “koibito”. Again — “amant” doesn’t change the meaning of “koibito” because “amant” is a valid meaning of “koibito”.

Now we know, based on the official French translation, which of the two meanings to apply to “koibito”:

JAPANESE: クラウドは女の友人であり、恋人であり

FRENCH: “Cloud avait ete son ami, et son amant.”

ENGLISH: “Cloud was the woman’s friend, and lover.”

Clerith is canon. Case closed.

(Source: dansantcaparet)

so I just finished Disc 1 of FF7...

rubych4n:

Holy fucking shit.
I kid you not, those were the exact thoughts that went through my head at the end of the disc. I knew Aeris was going to die even before I played the game, but damn…I sat there, quite literally with my jaw open, all throughout her death scene, and at the beginning of the…

Cloud x Aerith forever…

Will someone (or multiple people) create picture edits with all three languages stating Cloud is Aerith’s lover?

JAPANESE: クラウドは女の友人であり、恋人であり

FRENCH: “Cloud avait ete son ami, et son amant.”

ENGLISH: “Cloud was the woman’s friend, and lover.”

JAPANESE: クラウドは女の友人であり、恋人であり 

FRENCH: “Cloud avait ete son ami, et son amant.”

ENGLISH: “Cloud was the woman’s friend, and lover.”

(Source: stray-arrows)

JAPANESE: クラウドは女の友人であり、恋人であり 

FRENCH: “Cloud avait ete son ami, et son amant.”

ENGLISH: “Cloud was the woman’s friend, and lover.”

OMG THIS IS PERFECT. Everyone re-blog the hell out of this.

(Source: stray-arrows, via astoryofalove)

Anonymous: So after all the things cloud and tifa have gone through in the compilation, in the end tifas love is one-sided, and her description for sweetheart is for Rude and johnny instead. Really?

astoryofalove:

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all the things c/t have gone through”? You must mean these things;

  • Tifa and her gang outcasting Cloud as children.
  • Tifa’s group of boyfriends picking on Cloud, and Tifa not doing anything about it.
  • Tifa thinking Cloud was ‘strange’.
  • Tifa allowing the entire town to blame Cloud for what SHE did.
  • Tifa IGNORING Cloud until she thought he could be famous.
  • Cloud ignoring Tifa as he developed a CANON love for Aerith.
  • Cloud risking Tifa and Barret’s safety and AVALANCHE’S cause just to rescue Aerith ‘by all means’.
  • Cloud developing a two person world with Aerith.
  • Cloud adoring Aerith’s eyes, smile, and laugh.
  • Cloud feeling at peace when he spoke to Aerith in the church.
  • Cloud thinking it was ‘amazing’ he met Aerith.
  • Cloud WANTING to date Aerith.
  • Cloud HOPING Aerith likes him.
  • Cloud wanting to be there for Aerith.
  • Cloud & Aerith actually dating.
  • Cloud & Aerith’s marriage prediction.
  • Cloud & Aerith’s stars being perfect for each other.
  • Cloud sensing Aerith and hearing Aerith’s voice in his SOUL.
  • Cloud saying Sephiroth’s plan to kill everyone on Gaia doesn’t matter now that AERITH is gone.
  • Tifa LYING to Cloud and ultimately causing Aerith’s death and the planet almost dying.
  • Cloud saying “I THINK OF AERITH A LOT”.
  • Cloud’s childhood crush for Tifa being called ‘dim, fleeting, and immature’.
  • Cloud & Tifa agreeing to be battle ‘partners’ against Sephiroth during the last battle in the Highwind scene.
  • Cloud wanting to be with/find Aerith in HIS promised land.
  • Cloud fighting with Tifa.
  • Cloud lying to Tifa.
  • Tifa FORCING herself to talk to Cloud.
  • Cloud zoning out when Tifa talks to him.
  • Marlene saying they’re not “very good/intimate friends”.
  • Cloud ignoring Tifa’s “do you love me?” question
  • Cloud thinking Denzel was brought to him by AERITH.
  • Cloud being adopted into Barret, Tifa, and Marlene’s family.
  • Cloud having his OWN room.
  • Cloud telling Tifa “I want to drink alone” / "I’d rather stay alone." when she asks to join him.
  • Cloud ignoring Tifa’s calls for MONTHS
  • Cloud running to Aerith’s church.
  • Cloud hearing Aerith’s ‘voice’ during AC.
  • Cloud having Aerith’s soul live on inside of his own.
  • Cloud wanting to die to find Aerith.
  • Cloud wanting Aerith’s forgiveness more than anything, including being healed from Geostigma.
  • Cloud having his OWN undying ‘feeling’ for Aerith that is different from her friends’ love for her.
  • Aerith being engraved in Cloud’s heart.
  • Cloud never “forgetting” Aerith.
  • Cloud calling Aerith’s church HIS place.
  • Cloud’s promised land being AERITH’S church.
  • Aerith being an “important person” to Cloud.

And so many more that I just have no time to list. 

She’s not a ‘sweetheart’ to anyone, she’s just a sweetheart. She’s beloved by many men and many fans—that’s what the quote is saying. Until Cloud’s name is mentioned, it doesn’t mean she’s Cloud’s koibito. That’s just your assumption.

It makes more sense to assume she’s koibito to Barret since she’s been raising a child with Barret for years. 

Anonymous: So after all the things cloud and tifa have gone through in the compilation, in the end tifas love is one-sided, and her description for sweetheart is for Rude and johnny instead. Really?

astoryofalove:

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all the things c/t have gone through”? You must mean these things;

  • Tifa and her gang outcasting Cloud as children.
  • Tifa’s group of boyfriends picking on Cloud, and Tifa not doing anything about it.
  • Tifa thinking Cloud was ‘strange’.
  • Tifa allowing the entire town to blame Cloud for what SHE did.
  • Tifa IGNORING Cloud until she thought he could be famous.
  • Cloud ignoring Tifa as he developed a CANON love for Aerith.
  • Cloud risking Tifa and Barret’s safety and AVALANCHE’S cause just to rescue Aerith ‘by all means’.
  • Cloud developing a two person world with Aerith.
  • Cloud adoring Aerith’s eyes, smile, and laugh.
  • Cloud feeling at peace when he spoke to Aerith in the church.
  • Cloud thinking it was ‘amazing’ he met Aerith.
  • Cloud WANTING to date Aerith.
  • Cloud HOPING Aerith likes him.
  • Cloud wanting to be there for Aerith.
  • Cloud & Aerith actually dating.
  • Cloud & Aerith’s marriage prediction.
  • Cloud & Aerith’s stars being perfect for each other.
  • Cloud sensing Aerith and hearing Aerith’s voice in his SOUL.
  • Cloud saying Sephiroth’s plan to kill everyone on Gaia doesn’t matter now that AERITH is gone.
  • Tifa LYING to Cloud and ultimately causing Aerith’s death and the planet almost dying.
  • Cloud saying “I THINK OF AERITH A LOT”.
  • Cloud’s childhood crush for Tifa being called ‘dim, fleeting, and immature’.
  • Cloud & Tifa agreeing to be battle ‘partners’ against Sephiroth during the last battle in the Highwind scene.
  • Cloud wanting to be with/find Aerith in HIS promised land.
  • Cloud fighting with Tifa.
  • Cloud lying to Tifa.
  • Tifa FORCING herself to talk to Cloud.
  • Cloud zoning out when Tifa talks to him.
  • Marlene saying they’re not “very good/intimate friends”.
  • Cloud ignoring Tifa’s “do you love me?” question
  • Cloud thinking Denzel was brought to him by AERITH.
  • Cloud being adopted into Barret, Tifa, and Marlene’s family.
  • Cloud having his OWN room.
  • Cloud telling Tifa “I want to drink alone” / "I’d rather stay alone." when she asks to join him.
  • Cloud ignoring Tifa’s calls for MONTHS
  • Cloud running to Aerith’s church.
  • Cloud hearing Aerith’s ‘voice’ during AC.
  • Cloud having Aerith’s soul live on inside of his own.
  • Cloud wanting to die to find Aerith.
  • Cloud wanting Aerith’s forgiveness more than anything, including being healed from Geostigma.
  • Cloud having his OWN undying ‘feeling’ for Aerith that is different from her friends’ love for her.
  • Aerith being engraved in Cloud’s heart.
  • Cloud never “forgetting” Aerith.
  • Cloud calling Aerith’s church HIS place.
  • Cloud’s promised land being AERITH’S church.
  • Aerith being an “important person” to Cloud.

And so many more that I just have no time to list. 

She’s not a ‘sweetheart’ to anyone, she’s just a sweetheart. She’s beloved by many men and many fans—that’s what the quote is saying. Until Cloud’s name is mentioned, it doesn’t mean she’s Cloud’s koibito. That’s just your assumption.

It makes more sense to assume she’s koibito to Barret since she’s been raising a child with Barret for years. 

stray-arrows:

French CoT showed; 

  • Cloud has his own room. / "At night she went to Clouds bedroom, After being sure that he was asleep she asked"
  • Cloud ignores Tifa’s question. / "You love me?" He wakes up, surprise painted on his face."

How grand

Where is the French text for all of this?

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cloudxaerith:

Today I get my copy of On the way to the smile, french edition. So I’m going to provide some translation from it. First of all, the book was translate directly from the japanese by Cécile Sénaux, so it’s an official translation from the japanese version. Why am I saying it’s official? Because of this :

It’s write in english so I’m pretty sure you can easily understand, square enix gave the right to the editor to do that, so it’s an official version. So now let’s begin, first of all, I didn’t read everything yet, I just pick some line that may interest some of you ;).
First in case of Tifa : the lifestream traduction state this :

Cloud was silent for a long time before he spoke again.
“Because I have you this time.”
 “You’ve always had me.”
“What I mean is kind of different,” Cloud answered with another smile.

But my version said totally otherwise :
(it’s the first paragraph) the french version state this and you could translate it as :

-But this time, you’re with me : I’m confident
-I’ve always been with you isn’t it?
-Not it that way, he answers with the same gaze

The “pas de cette manière” (not in that way) made me more think about the fact they have been together to fight someone but know it’s different. So it’s really different.
Now another traduction : the lifestream version state :

“It’s… Just the way I am.”
“No. You’re much more cheerful and strong. If you’ve forgotten the way you were then, I’ll be there to remind you.”
“You really will?”
“Probably,” Cloud said blushing.




-It’s the way I am
-I’m not agree, you’re stronger than this. And if you forget, I’ll be there to remind you.
-Really?
Probably… he answers with a embarrassed smile

Cloud didn’t blush he’s embarrassed that’s all “gêné” didn’t mean “blush” to blush is “rougir” that’s a pretty different word. Sure you can blush when you’re embarrassed but they’re talking about his smile, not about his face…
And finally, I was happy to see that there is lifestream case in it, so here is the lifestream’s translation :

Cloud was her friend, her beloved — a symbol of what was important to her, and someone to be protected.

And here’s the french version :
So, “koibito” is translate as “amant” and this word totally mean “lover” not “beloved” “amant” is for mutual love and non platonic love, you can’t say that your crush is your “amant”. Plus, you can’t really use “amant” for someone you just kissed -if you know what I mean-.
So here it is ! You can see that the official traduction is way different from the other. Let me know if want some other part of on the way to the smile